Do you want your kids to farm? - Ontario Agriculture2024-03-28T18:59:48Zhttps://ontag.farms.com/forum/topics/do-you-want-your-kids-to-farm?commentId=3646443%3AComment%3A3874&feed=yes&xn_auth=nowe just want to farm one hund…tag:ontag.farms.com,2011-12-13:3646443:Comment:295842011-12-13T22:45:03.531ZRobert Hillmanhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/RobertHillman
<p>we just want to farm one hundred acers</p>
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<p>there is three of us to work full time</p>
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<p>we will live in the country and work for free for ten years for a farmer that will help us get our own hundred acers</p>
<p>i can make 25 thousand a year with a hundred acers and thats all we want</p>
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<p>we just want to farm one hundred acers</p>
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<p>there is three of us to work full time</p>
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<p>we will live in the country and work for free for ten years for a farmer that will help us get our own hundred acers</p>
<p>i can make 25 thousand a year with a hundred acers and thats all we want</p>
<p> </p> because of selfishness
the da…tag:ontag.farms.com,2011-12-13:3646443:Comment:294782011-12-13T22:43:01.958ZRobert Hillmanhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/RobertHillman
<p>because of selfishness</p>
<p>the dad should have said NO</p>
<p>the dad should have been a man and done what he wanted</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://ontag.farms.com/forum/topics/do-you-want-your-kids-to-farm#3646443Comment4177"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I was talking to a friend the other day....the son wants to farm but the challenges of succession between the 3 generations of the family made it impossible....they needed to sell the…</div>
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<p>because of selfishness</p>
<p>the dad should have said NO</p>
<p>the dad should have been a man and done what he wanted</p>
<p><br/><br/><cite>Roadrunner said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://ontag.farms.com/forum/topics/do-you-want-your-kids-to-farm#3646443Comment4177"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">I was talking to a friend the other day....the son wants to farm but the challenges of succession between the 3 generations of the family made it impossible....they needed to sell the land and operation to satisfy the siblings...still bitter feelings between everyone.</div>
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</blockquote> we want to farm ITS ALL WE H…tag:ontag.farms.com,2011-12-13:3646443:Comment:295822011-12-13T22:42:14.448ZRobert Hillmanhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/RobertHillman
<p>we want to farm ITS ALL WE HAVE EVER WANTED TO DO</p>
<p>there is a farm 100 acers five bedroom house and a nice barn</p>
<p>ITS NOT A FANCY HOUSE but the land is nice sixty acers at the bank</p>
<p>the whole place is 130 thousand and its not been farmed for a few years</p>
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<p>WE WILL LIVE THERE AND WORK FOR FREE FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS FOR SOMEONE that will help us farm</p>
<p>we are in ontario dad 45 daughter 24 sons 16 and all we want to do is …</p>
<p>we want to farm ITS ALL WE HAVE EVER WANTED TO DO</p>
<p>there is a farm 100 acers five bedroom house and a nice barn</p>
<p>ITS NOT A FANCY HOUSE but the land is nice sixty acers at the bank</p>
<p>the whole place is 130 thousand and its not been farmed for a few years</p>
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<p>WE WILL LIVE THERE AND WORK FOR FREE FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS FOR SOMEONE that will help us farm</p>
<p>we are in ontario dad 45 daughter 24 sons 16 and all we want to do is farm</p>
<p>a hundred acers with beef and goats</p>
<p>wheres the person that will help us???</p>
<p><a href="mailto:integrity@cyg.net">integrity@cyg.net</a></p> There are several ways to eas…tag:ontag.farms.com,2011-05-09:3646443:Comment:177692011-05-09T20:22:20.900ZDarin Noorenhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/DarinNooren
<p>There are several ways to ease into the family farm without having to go into unbearable debt if it is feasible to do so. You may even structure it in a way that you are expanding and taking over at the same time. If you sit down and speak whats on your mind with your family it can be worked out as with my family. its not as scary as it seems if you break it down into smaller steps when covering all the aspects.</p>
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<p>There are several ways to ease into the family farm without having to go into unbearable debt if it is feasible to do so. You may even structure it in a way that you are expanding and taking over at the same time. If you sit down and speak whats on your mind with your family it can be worked out as with my family. its not as scary as it seems if you break it down into smaller steps when covering all the aspects.</p>
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<p> </p> I was talking to a friend the…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-03-19:3646443:Comment:41772010-03-19T15:34:27.000ZRoadrunnerhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/Roadrunner
I was talking to a friend the other day....the son wants to farm but the challenges of succession between the 3 generations of the family made it impossible....they needed to sell the land and operation to satisfy the siblings...still bitter feelings between everyone.
I was talking to a friend the other day....the son wants to farm but the challenges of succession between the 3 generations of the family made it impossible....they needed to sell the land and operation to satisfy the siblings...still bitter feelings between everyone. Here are some other comments…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-02-28:3646443:Comment:40342010-02-28T16:54:38.000ZJoe Daleshttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/JoeDales
Here are some other comments that were sent to us by our website visitors on this topic.<br />
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I'm the youngest of three and I think my parents (well my dad anyways) wanted someone to take over the farm. He didn't have to worry since my oldest brother lived and breathed the farm since he was born. My other brother never wanted to farm but he's directly involved with ag by being a gov't extension guy. He also comes out from the city to run a combine on the farm. I farm part time with…
Here are some other comments that were sent to us by our website visitors on this topic.<br />
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I'm the youngest of three and I think my parents (well my dad anyways) wanted someone to take over the farm. He didn't have to worry since my oldest brother lived and breathed the farm since he was born. My other brother never wanted to farm but he's directly involved with ag by being a gov't extension guy. He also comes out from the city to run a combine on the farm. I farm part time with them while also operating my own crop consulting business. With all the challenges that ag has, is and will always face, I strongly believe that farming is a great lifestyle to live, but also a great business opportunity to be in, as long as your willing to change and adapt to keep being profitable, and to be a manager as much if not more so than a labourer.<br />
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Your commentary is very interesting. I am wondering if the issue is not whether our kids should farm versus should our kids be in agriculture. For two or more generations now I feel we have in general been discouraging the next generation from pursuing a career in agriculture. Now as we look across the landscape, most sectors within our industry are struggling to find good people. There are lots of very good opportunities in agriculture as we move ahead. Yes most of them will be off the farm, but I think it is time we tell our kids that the future is in agriculture with some great career opportunities to pursue. Who knows for some or hopefully many that path may lead them back to the farm.<br />
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Yound people need a lot of help to get started. Young farmers don't have access to the capital needed to finance a farm operation and profitability is not gauranteed. If farming does become profitable the established operations expand, and this drives up the amount of capital necessary for starting a farm business.<br />
Profits aren't the only thing causing the farm exodus. The growing book of rules that farmers must follow is tying them down. On that note, I'm glad the government is prorogueing. It just means that they aren't making any more rules for Canadians to follow!<br />
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We operate 250a of low bush blueberries for the pass 40 years and we are ready to pass it on to our son but the amount of capital needed to get into this type of business is very high . The only way this will happen will be if the parents supply 60% of the total capital needed. There must be other ways for young people to start farming?<br />
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Our family has been mixed grain farmers for 100 years and we have two boys who probably will not farm. Thanks to our Gov`t policy we are getting out of the livestock business. Inspite of what some people believe I don`t think the ethanol and biofeul policies have hurt the meat sector. We just have differnet grains to use. Distillers grain works very well for animals. However the subsidies that the corporate hog barns have recieved choke off the family farm. I cannot compete with companies who recieve subsidies when my mixed farm does not qualify because we have grain and hogs. I have taken the hog buyout and will quite. Perhaps the thing to do would be restructure the farm into separate sectors, but I believe I have missed the boat now We should have done this 10 years ago. Who knows what our Gov`t will do next? Too much risk to take a stab in the dark.<br />
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I am personally a young person who is going into agriculture, it has never really been a choice for me, it is what I have wanted to do since before I can remember. I agree with earlier comments that agriculture has a bright future; so many opportunities are opening up within the primary sector and throughout support industries. I also agree that we must have the ability to adapt if we are going to be able to remain sustainable into the future, and this includes regulations. I agree that many are complete bull, but inevitable. If worldwide agriculture is taken into account, we are only at the beginning; countries in Europe and much stricter regulations than we do. We need to be ready for these changing regulations and be proactive now in things that will become law in the future. We have to not be afraid of changes that are occurring in our industry and approach them all with an open mind. I also noticed that many people are talking largely about their sons; don’t count out your daughters. With our changing industry, we girls are very capable of running operations and I know more than a few who are more than ready to take on the task.<br />
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Indeed its an amazing discussion, Sorry, I dont belong to such experienced and elite farming community. Me and my wife are in IT industry for over 20yrs now, however, since childhood I had a dream and passion to get into farming/Ag. I have accumulated funds, and am currently migrating to Canada, just to own a farm and actually get into this profession. I am facing exactly similar situation, where I have to rethink of my Kids, will they ever like to get into farming, we ourselves have no experiene, what will we do for kids, but yes we have decided to start one day they way some of our you have started 5 Generations back. I would definately encourage my children to find better and innovative ways withing Ag. Its a great profession and as many of you said the best lifestyle I can imagine, then why not offer that to our next generation? at least an option for it.<br />
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No not like times are now its hard farming with the cut of some crops we tend.They might want to but i want them to go to school and do better then me.<br />
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yes i do and i just got this program too that gives you every thing how too farm and its really good my 14 year old kid Tommy loves it so much so I will put the link down hire but yea just trying too help if you are just getting in too lat your kids farm because its a really nice thing too do with your family<br />
this is the link As a young person trying to m…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-02-25:3646443:Comment:40072010-02-25T19:02:32.000ZLaDonna Rosehttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/LaDonnaRose
As a young person trying to make that decision, I am glad that my parents encouraged me to get an education, work off the farm and see a bit of the world. I always knew that I wanted to farm and give my own children the opportunity. Now, when it comes down to the logistics and the planning of being more than an 'employee', I find myself overwhelmed with the thought of the big dollars and big commitment that comes along with it. I find myself wondering 'How do you add onto and grow an operation…
As a young person trying to make that decision, I am glad that my parents encouraged me to get an education, work off the farm and see a bit of the world. I always knew that I wanted to farm and give my own children the opportunity. Now, when it comes down to the logistics and the planning of being more than an 'employee', I find myself overwhelmed with the thought of the big dollars and big commitment that comes along with it. I find myself wondering 'How do you add onto and grow an operation that is already a good size?' and 'Will I ever be as good at is as my parents?', 'What if I fail?'<br />
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I think there are definately young people out there who have the interest and desire, but it can be such an overwhelming decision given the nature of the business and economics envolved. Definately continue to teach children about agriculture and what a rewarding career it can be, but try not to make them feel 'obligated' to carry on if they aren't really interested. I like your point Wayne... th…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-02-18:3646443:Comment:38742010-02-18T14:52:29.000ZRoadrunnerhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/Roadrunner
I like your point Wayne... they should "want" to farm not feel like it is an obligation....
I like your point Wayne... they should "want" to farm not feel like it is an obligation.... Yes I want to farm. Do I want…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-02-15:3646443:Comment:38572010-02-15T17:35:01.000ZWayne Blackhttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/WayneKBlack
Yes I want to farm. Do I want my children to farm? I want the best for my children and farming is one of those businesses that could offer the best. I can not afford to buy into my parents operation so my family needs to be more creative on how we are going to continue to farm.<br />
I think part of the issue is that some people think they need immediately what their parents have today without all the work that lead them to where they are. One of my parents kept saying to me I need to get a job in…
Yes I want to farm. Do I want my children to farm? I want the best for my children and farming is one of those businesses that could offer the best. I can not afford to buy into my parents operation so my family needs to be more creative on how we are going to continue to farm.<br />
I think part of the issue is that some people think they need immediately what their parents have today without all the work that lead them to where they are. One of my parents kept saying to me I need to get a job in town and forget about farming. That has stopped since the day the salt mine closed. Farming is a difficult industry with a lot of rewards you have to work hard at to find. It is not much different than the hundreds of jobs out there that are disposable - including the historic "safe" jobs such as the salt mine. First time in my life I have ever seen it idle.<br />
My children need to experience life before they decide that they "want" to farm instead of feeling like they "need" to farm. the transition has to be done…tag:ontag.farms.com,2010-02-12:3646443:Comment:38452010-02-12T14:12:10.000Zrein minnemahttps://ontag.farms.com/profile/reinminnema732
the transition has to be done in stages, that is the only way.<br />
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<cite>Roadrunner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://ontag.farms.com/forum/topics/do-you-want-your-kids-to-farm?commentId=3646443%3AComment%3A3831&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3646443Comment3831"><div>I think the real issue is one of "Do the kids want to farm and are they prepared?"<br></br><br></br>The transfer of the farm is a major challenge these days as the operations are larger and have greater obligations than the 100 acres that…</div>
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the transition has to be done in stages, that is the only way.<br />
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<cite>Roadrunner said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://ontag.farms.com/forum/topics/do-you-want-your-kids-to-farm?commentId=3646443%3AComment%3A3831&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3646443Comment3831"><div>I think the real issue is one of "Do the kids want to farm and are they prepared?"<br/><br/>The transfer of the farm is a major challenge these days as the operations are larger and have greater obligations than the 100 acres that used to be the average operation....<br/><br/>How many kids want to and are able to take over millions of dollars of debt and multi million dollar operations....<br/><br/>It is a big issue and only get more serious as the number of farmers start thinking about transition.</div>
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