Ontario Agriculture

The network for agriculture in Ontario, Canada

Federal Budget: Do you want an election? Do you think anything will change with an election?

I doubt anyone really wants a federal election right now, it is hard to see that much will change politically.  Western Canada is not likely to vote Liberal, Quebec likely is not going to vote Conservative.

 

Will Ontario vote Conservative?  Are Ignatief/Liberals popular enough to gain an Minority Government?

 

Some mentioned it seems like a big waste to get another minority Conservative Government.

 

Politics Discussion - What do you think?

 

Joe Dales

 

 

Views: 201

▶ Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Joann on March 22, 2011 at 2:11am

If there were to be a late spring election, I would hazard to guess it would have the lowest voter turn-out EVER. Voters have been constantly threatened with an election since '06 and now are completely oblivious to political chatter.


Voters would stay home in droves.  There is little confidence in the government showing true leadership and in the same token there does not appear to be any viable alternative.


Having said that.... the people that will go to the polls and the die-hard entrenched party supporters.


Then it will rest with the die-hards with a question of supporting a party that shows contempt for our system.


The government has been boxed into a corner.  The Royal Opposition must bring down a government that is contempt.  It they do not, the opposition will send a message that contempt of our governing system is acceptable.


What a mess.   It will be a long drawn out nasty election with another minority governing party... albeit... different from the one we have today...... that is my personal opinion. :)

Permalink Reply by Joe Dales on March 22, 2011 at 5:15am

I agree Joann  "What a mess."

I have talked to 3 or 4 people this morning and everyone thinks it will be a big waste of time and money right now.

 

I heard $400 Million is what is it likely to cost for a Federal Election....

 

It will be interesting to see if the NDP want an election or not.

 

Take care,

 

Joe

Permalink Reply by Joann on March 22, 2011 at 5:43am

Everyone I speak to says the same thing but there is a serious matter that needs to be addressed.

 

The sitting government is in contempt. Contempt is defined as: An act of deliberate disobedience or disregard for the laws, regulations, or decorum of a public authority, such as a court or legislative body.

Individuals may be cited for contempt when they disobey an order, fail to comply with a request, tamper with documents, withhold evidence, interrupt proceedings through their actions or words, or otherwise defy a public authority or hold it up to ridicule and disrespect.

 

It is serious and if the Royal Opposition does not deal with the matter effectively, we have a ruling party that could not be described as democratic but more as a totalitarian rule.

 

I do not think people WANT an election.... the question is: do we NEED an election with the contempt charges?

 

If the people of Canada accept contempt from our elected officials then.. by all means... we do not NEED an election.  

 

Our international reputation will suffer as a result.

 


Joe Dales said:

I agree Joann  "What a mess."

I have talked to 3 or 4 people this morning and everyone thinks it will be a big waste of time and money right now.

 

I heard $400 Million is what is it likely to cost for a Federal Election....

 

It will be interesting to see if the NDP want an election or not.

 

Take care,

 

Joe

Permalink Reply by Joe Dales on March 22, 2011 at 5:58am

Hi Joann,

I don't disagree with your point regarding contempt.

I have only been half watching this last political fiasco.

In the past, has every government in contempt fallen and called an election?

Just wondering about precedents and is an election a foregone conclusion irregardless of the budget?

 

Joe

 

 

Permalink Reply by Joann on March 22, 2011 at 6:34am

From what I understand, but correct me if this is wrong.... that the contempt charges are precedent in this country.   I would imagine it will be up to the Opposition to determine what action is forecoming.  I have no idea if the G.G. would be part of this mess or not.

 

The world is watching to see what happens.  Strong leadership.... from someone please.... is needed now.  Much is at stake. 

 

If Canada shows contempt to its own citizens... are they capable of showing contempt to other nations?

 

 

 

Joe Dales said:

Hi Joann,

I don't disagree with your point regarding contempt.

I have only been half watching this last political fiasco.

In the past, has every government in contempt fallen and called an election?

Just wondering about precedents and is an election a foregone conclusion irregardless of the budget?

 

Joe

 

 

Permalink Reply by Bristow on March 25, 2011 at 3:34am
What ever you vote, you are still getting the same policys, lies and state control of your property. But in a nice way. The only difference with the policial parties is how they do it. A licence to work, licence to drive your car, licence to manage your property, requirement to pay three levels of government taxes for the same services, a Public service that treats people with comptemt, Politians with agenda of social climbing,and self interests, sell out to foreign interests and multnationals eg USA, China, and the create acts that are against the Constution.  So its your move. 
Permalink Reply by Steve Twynstra on March 31, 2011 at 7:57am
My 2cents.  I think the Conservatives will still form a minority albeit with far fewer of the popular vote behind them in rural ON.  Most farmers are disillusioned with the Western Reform Party (oops, sorry, Conservative) lack of commitment and/or outright neglect of ON agriculture (how many rural ON MP's do we have again?) and will continue on the tractor seat rather than get out and vote during spring seeding.  We do not have the rallying cry of Harper's "scrap CAIS" lie to muster us out to the polling booth this time!  Throw in some scandal/contempt issues and their sharp move to the centre and the Cons aren't much different than the Libs under Martin after all.
Permalink Reply by Harry Stam on April 6, 2011 at 12:22am

Joann,

I agree there is contempt by the government but I do not agree that the world is watching, in fact I do not even think that most Canadians are watching. The world cares little about Canada and I do not believe for a minute that any government any where in the world is watching our election with any real interest. I also believe Canadians have become so used to inept government that they have turned it off. That disinterest is the fault of both the Liberals and the Conservatives and to a lesser extent the NDP. The two big parties act horribly and take more interest in running the next guy down than they have of actually governing. Our political set up causes the opposition to be opposed to everything the government puts forth even when they know it is for the countries good. What a waste of time and energy. The original intent of opposition parties was to be the party that held government to account, not to oppose absolutely everything. Our present day political parties obstruct government and our ruling parties abuse their power. As far as I am concerned, I wish Harper, Iggy and Layton would all retire and that we could get some new forward thinking people in who can work together. These guys cannot be the best Canada has to offer. 

Joann said:

From what I understand, but correct me if this is wrong.... that the contempt charges are precedent in this country.   I would imagine it will be up to the Opposition to determine what action is forecoming.  I have no idea if the G.G. would be part of this mess or not.

 

The world is watching to see what happens.  Strong leadership.... from someone please.... is needed now.  Much is at stake. 

 

If Canada shows contempt to its own citizens... are they capable of showing contempt to other nations?

 

 

 

Joe Dales said:

Hi Joann,

I don't disagree with your point regarding contempt.

I have only been half watching this last political fiasco.

In the past, has every government in contempt fallen and called an election?

Just wondering about precedents and is an election a foregone conclusion irregardless of the budget?

 

Joe

 

 

Permalink Reply by Bristow on April 6, 2011 at 2:06pm
I been listening to CBC, and think where have I heared this before.  Some promises to do this and do that, soon as they are in, back to screwing Mr and Mrs Voter.  Your Librials are just ex Union leaders and red rag social climbers, Conservatives gentlemen farmers that are more a home in the city, lawyers, bankers and sons of Politians, thinking they are JFK.  NDP socialist social workers who think the country in a money pit, they can play with after a dinner party with a bunch of Yuppies like a game of charades. The block well if they want to seperate, let them. They are still going to get the same Politians only in french, taxed twice as much because the fedral money will be gone. PS anyone noticed any Big Signs on crown land writen the new sight of a Policestation/ Hospital/community center lately.

▶ Reply to Discussion

RSS

Agriculture Headlines from Farms.com Canada East News - click on title for full story

Ag in the House: Dec. 1 – 5

A Liberal minister reminded the House the carbon tax doesn’t apply to farmer

Ontario Animal Health Network (OAHN) Swine Network Quarterly Industry Report

Starting in 2015, Senecavirus A (SVA) has caused intermittent complications with respect to the export of Canadian cull animals to the United States. This disease resembles reportable swine vesicular diseases. This is a national issue and since June 2025 has impacted Ontario cull sow movements. In July 2025, the APHIS and the USDA removed the export eligibility status for a cull sow assembly in Ontario due to SVA lesions being seen in cull sows sent to a USDA processing facility. These lesions initiated foreign animal disease investigations at this US processing plant. The suspect animal(s) were initially quarantined for individual inspection and further testing. Since the initial site, another 2 Ontario cull sow assembly sites have also had their export eligibility status revoked by APHIS and the USDA for similar reasons. The affected assembly sites accept cull sows from Quebec, the Maritimes and Ontario. Each affected assembly site must action the USDA requirements including emptyin

New restrictions placed on hunting, farming 'incredibly destructive' wild boars in Alberta

Wild boars have been declared "a pest in all circumstances" by the Alberta government effective Dec. 1, meaning new restrictions have been placed on keeping them in captivity and hunting them in the wild. It is now illegal to keep, buy, sell, obtain or transport wild boars in Alberta without a permit. That also means no new wild boar farms will be permitted in the province. The hunting and trapping of wild boars in Alberta is banned as well, with the exception of land owners or occupants killing the animals on their own land. Any person who kills a wild boar is now required to report the date, location and number of boars killed to the province as soon as possible. Hannah McKenzie, the province's wild boar specialist, says the changes were made due to the dangers posed by existing wild boar populations and the risks associated with more escaping from captivity. "In addition to damaging agriculture and the environment, wild boar pose a serious risk for the introduction and spread of

CUSMA Review Raises Concerns Over Potential U.S. Tariffs on Canadian Pork

As the first formal review of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA) approaches in July, pork producers across North America are bracing for potential impacts—especially the possibility of new U.S. tariffs on Canadian agriculture. Florian Possberg, Partner at Polar Pork Farms, says the U.S. political landscape is shaping expectations. He notes that U.S. President Donald Trump has repeatedly pushed for a baseline 15% tariff on foreign goods in recent global trade discussions. If that approach carries into the CUSMA renegotiation, it could disrupt one of the pork sector’s most critical trade corridors. Free Trade Has Been Essential for Pork Movement Possberg emphasizes that under CUSMA, both live hogs and processed pork products have flowed freely across borders without tariffs. This freedom is especially important given the highly integrated nature of North America’s pork supply chain. The best-case scenario, he adds, is that tariff-free access continues unchanged. The wor

FCC report highlights productivity as key to Canada’s agricultural future

Canadian farmers could see significant income gains and new opportunities if agricultural productivity growth returns to historic highs. The Farm Credit Canada (FCC) report titled Reigniting agricultural productivity in Canada, estimates that boosting productivity growth to two per cent annually could unlock $30 billion in additional farm income, generate $31 billion in GDP, and create nearly 23,000 jobs across the country. Canada has long been a standout among global food producers. Over the past half-century, the agriculture industry has achieved significant productivity growth through better farm management, improved input efficiency and technological innovation. The report warns, however, that productivity growth has slowed in recent years, threatening the industry’s competitiveness and Canada’s ability to meet growing national and global food demand. “Canada’s agricultural productivity growth has consistently outpaced other G7 countries for more than three decades, showing the s

© 2025   Created by Darren Marsland.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service