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Smart Meters and high consumption

There is a serious problem with the smart meters, reading as much as 4 times the actual consumption.

 

We need to get everyone together.  I have already contacted 2 reporters, and started this blog http://h1ripoff.blogspot.com/

 

It may come down to a class action suit against Hydro One.  This is THEFT!

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Permalink Reply by Jacqui Laporte on May 18, 2010 at 9:16am
I had the same battle...I do my laundry at night, rarely use the dryer, turn lights off when not in use, and in fact, Im hardly ever home.

My hydro bill doubled in March, and rose by an average of $30 (for a single household) for the other bills.

My bill says that the meter was read every month - but for some reason my hydro usage doubled. When I questioned Hydro One, I was told that my appliances were old. I asked if they just got old this month - because nothing had changed. I was told that the meters were digital and therefore accurate - I replied that my computer was digital too and it was chalk full of errors and problems.

I monitored my hydro usage twice a day for 2 weeks. I turned breakers off for those things that might be causing the problem, and I didnt find any pattern at all to the readings. On days when I was gone, the hydro usage was the same as the days I was there.

I am thinking that even though the bill says that the meter was read, I think it may not have. If there is an incorrect estimate mixed in there, it could explain a much higher bill (although it still doesnt explain why my hydro bills have increased in amount when I use less hydro than I ever have).

Any other suggestions to try to track hydro usage would be appreciated (and I will email Mr. Wakefield) :)
Permalink Reply by Joann on June 4, 2010 at 12:11pm
maybe there is hope?


'There’s good news for worried electricity customers with outrageous bills: You can challenge them — and win.
In the last six months, thousands of Ontarians have received Hydro One bills that were two, three and four times higher than normal, while the utility was installing those controversial smart meters.'
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/connie_woodcock/2010/0...
Permalink Reply by Joann on June 17, 2010 at 2:07am
Privacy commissioner Ann Cavoukian is raising the alarm about smart meter data collected and possibly used by "other" parties. She attended a conference in the USA "where utilities were talking about “monetizing” – they meant selling—the new information they were gleaning from their customers." Spam, tele-marketers, etc could be the next wave of intrusion due to the mandatory installment of "smart meters".

The article cites an example which is an option many will obviously consider as we are are being "gently persuaded to reduce energy consumption...... "You sign up for an energy conservation scheme that lets your local utility shut down your air conditioner temporarily if the power grid is overloaded".

I have a problem with the new smart meters over and above the erratic billings. We have alarm systems. If we encounter a problem to trigger the alarm a loud siren sounds and the security company notifies us of the triggered alarm.

If companies can remotely turn off air conditioners..... no doubt some people will have the ability to turn off alarm systems also.

Can the Government of Ontario be held accountable to unauthorized technological use of mandatory smart meters in cases such as burglaries if/when security systems are remotely interfered with?

complete article; http://www.thestar.com/business/article/824450--privacy-czar-raises...
Permalink Reply by Bristow on June 17, 2010 at 3:42pm
Just joined Green energy option cheap that using the smart meter, pay a rate of 5.8 cents in a 24hr period . Compared to 9.9 cents they going to charge to peek period system. More info go to www.justenergy.com
Permalink Reply by Roadrunner on June 29, 2010 at 9:15am
We should get these meters for the solar panels people are putting....maybe they read higher than actual...

RR
Permalink Reply by Robert Hillman on December 7, 2011 at 3:30pm

www.infowars.com

 

www.henrymakow.com

 

get the reporters to look up      THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

 

how about canadians   that  LOOK at     www.henrymakow.com   and read the CONSPIRACY  so monsterous   to believe  HOW ABOUT CANAdians wake up to the PATRIOT act ONE AND TWO in the usa  and now'

usa  ARMY AND MARINES  ALLOWED ON  OUR SOIL

 

wake up           alberta  man  gets stopped by BLACK HAWK  helicopter  for getting a calf that crossed the barbed wire boarder    but    they  didnt have ONE FREAKING PLANE UP on    911?????????  when will  people wake up

 

of course the smart meters are a  joke            www.infowars.com   was warning about them five years ago already

 

Permalink Reply by Kim Sytsma on January 5, 2012 at 12:44am



Joann said:

One has to wonder about Queen's Park and their abilities related to reasonable thought processes.

Premier McGuinty is bound and determined to channel and manipulate social behavior modifications on many fronts including energy consumption.

Smart Meters are being installed under the guise of enabling consumers' conservation efforts and taking firmer control of expenses. While many consumers are shifting consumption to off-peak hours, few are seeing any real savings.

Mr. McGuinty has provided Smart Meters to give the public the opportunity to save on energy use through less consumption and taking advantage of lower rates on off-peak hours. Isn't that the crux of his line? We are also being told that 80% of our hydro infrastructure needs to be replaced in the not to distant future.

If everyone lowers their hydro bills, the power companies will see a shortfall in their revenue. Who will pay for the shortfalls?

Why... that would be us!... one way or another.

So the energy companies spent months preparing for requests for rate increases. Hydro One wanted a 22% increase over 2 years.

No! No! No!. The public is already feeling the financial burdens from the new Smart Meter readings. The Green Tax has yet to be billed out and the HST will be an added sting.

No, the government wants first dibs on revenue so they nicely (sic) told the energy companies not to bother to ask for rate increases.

Woe is us!

Isn't there anyone thinking the process through..... at least until past Oct. 2001?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontario/ontario-utilit...
Ontario utilities told not to bother with requests for rate increases



Andrew Campbell said:
Wow! Did I read that right in the article?!?!...
"Beckett estimates that most homeowners will see an increase of 25 per cent on a typical electrical bill in coming months. That jump will come from the Ontario Energy Board rate increase, other charges related to the Green Energy Act and the introduction of the HST on July 1." That doesn't even include the on-peak cost - which will be very costly for us who tend to milk cows through those peak hours.

Jennifer Garner said:
Permalink Reply by Kim Sytsma on January 5, 2012 at 12:48am

according to the beautiful booklet that the Ont. Gov't sent out  over a year ago, the rates are going up 57% plus the HST then the other things like servicing the debt retirement is on top of that,( it is going up25%) .  study was done by one of the universities (Toronto, I think) their study says the hydro will go up more the 100% in the next 5 years.

Permalink Reply by John Schwartzentruber on January 5, 2012 at 2:46am

Well, not surprising really! Someone is going to have to pay for those solar trackers in your neighbour's yard and the wind farms that Enbridge is developing!

We will be paying for these "green" projects twice - once through our electricity bills as noted above and also with our taxes dollars siphoned off to pay back the subsidies paid to the developers and owners of wind and solar companies.

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